whaaa!? ok…someone correct me if i’m wrong but when you have a turbocharger, if you get used to the power at x psi you just turn up the psi to a higher level (within the turbos efficiency range) and retune.
with a supercharger though…um…
see my point? you wont really feel good if you want more power and realize you cant have it without redoing your whole setup = more money cha ching…
i can say that if i had the funds to throw down i would supercharge my ls in a heart beat… i love turbos and the bov when you shift.
but to me i think a fully built na motor sounds the best, then the whine of a sc, and then turbo. but for power reasons turbo, sc, all motor.
i also like to be different every one turbos. its rare to find a da with a sc
first of all both systems i mentioned generally have blow off valves on them. with a supercharger people run their setup closer to the efficiency so you wont be abled to turn the boost up as much but you can still turn it up quite a bit. the main differance is that you would need to change a pully rather than just press a couple buttons on an ebc or turn a knob on a mbc.
having a turbo car i love boost, but recently i am all about the supercharger, my buddy has a sc rsx with a 10lb pulley. After a few mods and good tuning he makes about 300 at the wheels with a pretty intense powerband that car is fast
I have been thinkin about supercharging my R motor thats coming on low boost. As stated above, the powerband is hella nice. GOOD low end tq and nothing but pulling till redline.
As far as I know I’m still the only one with a Vortech in a DA but, I haven’t been keeping up on the forums much. I played around with an RSX the other day who was pretty damn surprised to see my car pull away from him easily. It also gets sickly loud when 5k and higher RPM but it’s very subdued before that. No buzzing or farting around the neighborhood for me.
One of the last forum threads covered traction power and racing and unless your at a track with drag slicks a lot of built NA cars will toast turbo cars who loose traction. My car is making 280-300 HP the boost level has gone down since I built it in Houston and now live 5000 ft higher in Colorado. My engine bay looks crowded because I gave up nothing but ABS to boost my car. I still have AC, Power Steering, Cruise Control the whole bag. the best pulley upgrade for the supercharger is the CRV crank pulley. The other pulley upgrades shrink the already small supercharger pulley. I can still put on the 10psi pulley which has been found to get 13-16 psi with the CRV crank pulley. I’m pretty sure I could make 350 or so easily with the car. I’m still on the stock block and don’t need more power at this point. I used HONDATA to modify my ECU. I was pretty happy with the results I got. Quite Frankly I could still use a better fuel tune on the car.
Down in Houston the car pulled stronger from 4500k up here it’s more 5k rpms.
yup what your saying about the traction is also true. im not knockin anyones car but i know some 300whp integras on huge turbos that are gettin royally toasted by the supercharged type s because its simply usable power vs peaky power that cant be put to the ground properly, personally the ideal honda in my mind would be like an eg or ek hatch with a sc’d jdm type r, might just have to build one oneday:drool:
traction traction traction. there are a few turbo guys that get their azzez handed to them by supercharged civics, tegs, and rsxs b/c of traction. i hope to follow in b17vortech’s footsteps in the near future. his original post with pics and dyno charts really inspired me. also the ability to keep his ac and power steering and still make 300 hp is really appealing. i can’t wait to get started.