Here is an article from summit racing’s Sports compact website. It also appeared in their spring and summer sports compact mailers. Tell me what you guys think. They have pics of a 95 LS getting some head work and fuel system upgrade and external ignition.
No thoughts, comments, feedback on this one??? 
I’m waiting for him to head to head with the VTEC
I read that. The head to head should be interesting. I don’t see why it couldn’t beat a vtec. More torque, comparable horsepower. Should be a good show.
Well, if the vtec is stock, I think the LS wins…good power from start to finish…
Ken
For the amount of money that cams/retainers/springs/fuel rail/ fuel pressure regulator/ head gasket/ valve job/ and labor it is not worth the money.
In my opinion LS owners should buy a turbo kit and just keep it at about 7-9 psi and this will make about 200-220 whp. You can find a used turbo kit for around $2000. Then later if you have more cash I would get a engine management system and dyno tune the LS motor to 12psi which would make about 220-240 whp depending on the motor and tuning.
Just an opinion.
thanks for the reply, I just wanted to see what some people thought about this. Now wouldn’t we be still talking about less money for parts alone? I mean if I did most of the work, wouldn’t it be less money. And how many people are selling turbos for the LS?
parts for LS’s are so much cheaper and more available. b18a motors are so cheap i picked one up as a spare so when i do my rebuild i have less down time, all i gotta do is drop it in. the LS is a good platform and is just an underdog because of its gear ratios, c/r, and poor flowing head. but if your dedicated the LS could be a formidable opponent
BTW if you got a LS why is your name VTEC-TYPER, just curious
Umm, just because I like the type r’s, thats all. Also, it is my ebay user id, so I just kept it the same. My old user name for G2 was Integra Typer RS, but since i had to change it, just chose something different.
It would be nice if they would have put the dyno charts in there.
Well parts still come out cheaper for the LS. But what you don’t realize is that to put in the valve springs and retainers you have to remove the whole head, so you have to buy a new head gasket. Then since you have the head off you might as well get a 3 angle valve job and new valve seals. Also it is good to change your timing belt while you are at it.
head gasket $80
valve seals and valve job $185
valve springs and retainers $ 500 apox
cams $ 600 apox.
timing belt $60-90
labor $500
which totals about $ 1965 with labor and 1465 w/o labor
all this trouble for just 15-20 hp. (I don’t think it is worth it)
Instead a used turbo kit would run you like $1500-$2000
and you can run 7 psi intercooled which should make 50whp.
Than later on if you have more money I would get a Aem Ems or a hondata with some 440cc injectors and you should be able to run 12 psi with stock internals if the car is dyno tuned by a good tuner. This would give you about 90 whp increase and you would have car that runs high 12s or low 13s depending on driver and tires.
well good luck.
hey where in TX are you at TXboyz?? click link in sig por favor
I am located in HOuston TX.
Is it good to just turbo with stock internals? Wouldn’t you want to upgrade some parts for more reliable power?
Originally posted by TXboyz
[B]Well parts still come out cheaper for the LS. But what you don’t realize is that to put in the valve springs and retainers you have to remove the whole head, so you have to buy a new head gasket. Then since you have the head off you might as well get a 3 angle valve job and new valve seals. Also it is good to change your timing belt while you are at it.
head gasket $80
valve seals and valve job $185
valve springs and retainers $ 500 apox
cams $ 600 apox.
timing belt $60-90
labor $500
which totals about $ 1965 with labor and 1465 w/o labor
all this trouble for just 15-20 hp. (I don’t think it is worth it)
Instead a used turbo kit would run you like $1500-$2000
and you can run 7 psi intercooled which should make 50whp.
Than later on if you have more money I would get a Aem Ems or a hondata with some 440cc injectors and you should be able to run 12 psi with stock internals if the car is dyno tuned by a good tuner. This would give you about 90 whp increase and you would have car that runs high 12s or low 13s depending on driver and tires.
well good luck. [/B]
true you could bolt on a turbo, but if you did go through with changing cams, the head is like brand new. if you bolt on the turbo your head still has 10+ year old parts.
not only that i disagree with the statement of just putting on a turbo! Theres no way i would just place a turbo on a 10 year old car and drive it like it was ment to be! i would for sure have to change internals and be 150% sure that my internals were made and able to produce the hp i woyuld be getting! I really dont get why people say …just strap on a turbo/super charger adn youll kill the rest! Yea u might kill the rest…but youll kill your engine as well! To me that coment is a little…F&F!
The one thing I’ve learned over the year with LS vs VTEC debate is the gearing. Just because the guy’s LS now has 142HP, it still does not mean he can beat a VTEC engine.
A mild turbo (5-7psi) on stock internals should be fine. The key is to not go overboard.
Regards,
Oz
i posted this up a long time ago but knowone seemed interested , i thought it was funny how dissapointed they were with the fuel rail and inj.
Originally posted by TXboyz
[B]Well parts still come out cheaper for the LS. But what you don’t realize is that to put in the valve springs and retainers you have to remove the whole head, so you have to buy a new head gasket. Then since you have the head off you might as well get a 3 angle valve job and new valve seals. Also it is good to change your timing belt while you are at it.
head gasket $80
valve seals and valve job $185
valve springs and retainers $ 500 apox
cams $ 600 apox.
timing belt $60-90
labor $500
which totals about $ 1965 with labor and 1465 w/o labor
all this trouble for just 15-20 hp. (I don’t think it is worth it)
Instead a used turbo kit would run you like $1500-$2000 [/B]
where did you get the prices on those cams and springs? crower has the cams listed as $400, and the springs/retainers at $326. and what about the labour cost for installing the turbo? and I’ve never seen a full turbo kit for 2g’s, where do you buy used kits? and is this a very good idea, to buy a used turbo-kit??
This guys acting like management is any less than $700 for good stuff, and that injectors are less than $200. Hmmm, doesn’t that put your turbo kit (that will most likely 'nade that motor) at about $3k? Oh sure, you’ll win as long as the things running, maybe 5-6 months. After that, the built ls is just gonna roll past 
Stew 