hehe 36 way adjustable, doubt it.
if you were thinking of getting adjustable coilovers for that price i would suggest getting the koni/GC combo on honda-tech. its only about $200 more. definately worth the money if you decide to autox. dont get me wrong my omnis are a great nonadjustable street setup at a good price but once you get into adjustability and the prices are that close to each other than i’d go with the best i could get if i only needed to save up a little more.
Thanks man, kit looks awesome that’s what i am going to get. You have been a big help and I appreciate it. I tried searching for spring rates but got alot of mumbo jumbo, they offer 340,430,545 for front and 280,350,430, and 545 for the rear. Do you know which would be the best to get, I am on 17" wheels and would like to go just low enough so the control arms don’t hit. Or is there thread discussing this that you could direct me to.
Greetings!
glad to see that preserved. That was my page (the link in the first post), though i didnt write the article originally. (I used to be CyberLeader here, dunno if my old account is still active, and my email has changed, so i made a new one).
I did this on my teg, so i have a few comments to make.
I have Zeal function B6 on my 93 LS, and theyre pretty fantastic.
But the rears are pretty short. I have them adjusted to max height (or pretty close) and its a good total ride height, but im concerned that i dont have much extension. ie, the shocks may “top” out in certain occasions. so far ive had no problem though.
Also, i had to take the lower mounting point on the zeals to a grinder to get it to fit in the LCA (i used JDM DA LCAs).
The JDM DA LCA and the ITR LCA have a slightly different mounting point for the strut. IMO, the DA piece is a better choice, though it may not make a significant difference.
just to add to this thread, I found this regarding the above comments as I’m having to use ITR shocks on my DA6, as there’s F-all available for the DA6 in the UK :bang: , and the DA6 LCA’s are in fact slightly different again.
seems any ITR shocks will need the bottom mounts milling/grinding a couple of mm to make them fit the DA6 LCA
worth knowing if you’ve got a DA6
could some one please help me out here. i just got a nice deal on some koni yellow shocks for 100 bucks. but they came out of a 89 crx. im not good with chassis codes so i dont know if you guys have covered this. i would like to know if these will fit my teg. and if i need front forks or not. if i use springs for a DA will it still sit lower in the rear? again sorry if you have covered this. i am not good with chassis codes. thanks for any help.
Ben: Or someone who is knowledgeable in this area… I have a question for you.
On my 90 da9 I did the dc/eg strut swap with NO problems whatsoever. Thanks for making the article very clear. I’m running Koni Yellows and Ground Control Coilovers. I used the front forks out of what the local autowrecker told me was an Acura 1.6 EL . The setup went in smoothly and is very competitive on the autocross track. For those of you who would like to see a setup that works well and went in successfully here is my cardomain. www.cardomain.com/id/down_hill_dog
Now I have a seperate question for you. Others have touched on the subject in this thread but it has’nt been completely answered. Can you use DA Springs on DC struts, or DC springs on DA struts? My gf is looking at buying a set of H&R Races out of a DC teg for her DA, but we want to know if the car will sit properly with them in mated to her DA Struts. I could see there being no problem with coilovers, but will the DC springs work and sit properly in her DA Integra
Thanks again guys.
-Craig
I ran into a problem putting DA springs on ITR struts. The DA front springs are smaller in diameter (and if I remember, shorter as well) on the front, and are taller in the rear than DC springs. The front springs would not fit on the spring seat correctly (they were not wide enough)and the rears were way too compressed. So, DC springs should fit on DA struts (same diameter rear, and larger in the front), but they will probably make the car sit lower in the rear. Also, you have to be careful, because, unlike the DA springs, the taller ones go in the front (this is very important because of the differences in front and rear spring rates on most sets). I would recommend using the springs made for the struts.
!Put this suspension puzzle together! ITR strut, CRX LCA, and sway bar?
HELP
I have a 91 Integra LS. I’d like to upgrade my rear sway bar. A Type R sway bar is a cheap way to do this.
However, I have also already purchased Koni Yellow Type R rear struts and 88 CRX LCA’s so that I can install them.
My question is, now that I’m changing the LCA’s, will other integra sway bars, such as Type R, GSR, or Suspension Techniques for my DA, etc., still “bolt on”, or will I need further mod?
I understand I need to reinforce the body where the new larger sway bar bolts on so no need to cover that.
Thanks for clearing this up! If you can.
I went outside today and compared my stock Integra LCA’s (still on the car) with the 88 CRX LCA’s. Although the design is different, how the strut bolts on, everything else is the same, all of the holes are the same, AND the length is the same. In other words, I could put my ITR struts and 88 CRX LCA’s on right now and leave the stock sway bar and everything would line up and “bolt on” just fine.
However, to put an ITR rear sway bar on, I would need to drill holes in the undercarriage for the mounting brackets and also reinforce the undercarriage, BUT, it would connect to the 88 CRX LCA’s just fine via sway bar endlinks (I also purchased ITR endlinks). No mods to the sway bar, endlinks, or LCA’s would be required, just the drilling for the mounting brackets.
Since I don’t really want to do that I’m just going to buy an aftermarket sway bar that does “bolt on” and doesn’t require drilling, of course, it costs three times more, but, no drilling!
http://www.jdmuniverse.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58483&page=2
there has been a lot of mentioning of changing out the LCA to ITR ones in order to use an ITR suspension. There hasnt been much mention of changing out the LCA to EG/DC arms, like that thread i linked to above. There was a post on G2IC earlier, but i dont remember the name, but that thread provided the link above. On JDM universe, they mention at the bottom of pg2 that the rear sway bar does not mount up properly, and that the brackets had to be moved around to correctly mount up the sway bar.
i would like opinions on these…
how much of an impact would that ~10mm difference in shock mount point be really? does it justify spending $100+ on an EG/DC rear lower control arm?
does having EG/DC LCA’s affect which application to get for future suspension upgrades? ie. a suspension tech sway bar?
thx
Just an update. I installed 88 CRX LCA’s and Tokico Illumina shocks, set to 3, ride is great, reduced body roll a ton. I also installed a Suspension Techniques rear sway bar. The stock one came off really easy and I thought the ST would go on really easy, not so, it was a bear (on my back in driveway). I managed to get it on, but only with longer bolts where it attaches to frame, just an FYI. Also, I had to remove my Egay tie-rod bar for the ST sway bar to fit. Good luck DIY’s.
wow, i never realized so much worked
I didn’t have to modify anything when putting on my ST sway bar with my ITR LCAs, but it did take some work. I had to leave all bolts really loose until I finally got all of them in, and it was a 2 person job. I don’t know if installing the ST sway bar is any easier on a stock DA suspension, but that thing is not flexible.
ok about the dc/da, i am not clear about this, so in the beginning i read that the DA strut sits 2.5" taller than a dc/eg/ef. Then it was kinda clarified that the spring determines the height not the strut. So, will the da STOCK spring on a STOCK dc strut lower the car? or vice versa? or will the 2.5" of the strut only determines schock travel. can anyone clarify, i’m confused!!!
interesting!about the last pictures. the itr control arms might put a better camber to the rear wheels right? its shorter than the da6 which i assume is the same as the usdm da lca.
More pictures will come in daylight, but since it’ s now dark at 5pm It will have to wait until the weekend.
Since no one else has ever posted pictures, I decided to do the conversion and post pictures with completely stock ITR suspension.
Larger image can be viewed by opening a new browser window and pasting the following in: http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid218/pbd02eab307debf4ad8c2f972792c061d/ec222fc7.jpg.orig.jpg
The rear is right where I want it, but i will have to slightly modify my exhast as it is very close to the larger ITR rear lower arms. I still have not swapped over to the ITR swaybar, as it will take some further modifications and custom work. So far though, the ride is perfect and it handles very well even with the paperclip for a swaybar.
The front will be experimented with using some Ground controls and Eibach springs and also with some Progress springs.
Anyone interested in some slightly used Omni Power full coilovers?
The location of the shock will not effect camber at all.
Exact concern
jerryjdmda:
I have the exact same concern. I have been reading up on this post since I joined. Most of those who have stated the swap as being sucecssful have been using some sort of coilover (adjustable) which taints the results (from my understanding). In regards to the such, I have gone the route of purchasing the Ksport coilovers. Nonetheless, I still hope that someone can answer your question. [Hint… Hint]
well i’m going to try with some DA PRogress lowering springs first and see how it sits with those…the spring rate should still be very close to that of the itr.
THen if that doesn’t work, i will try the ground controls with a nearly identicle spring rate of that of the ITR. As long as you aren’t bottomed out, it should still be nearly identical to stock.
^^I guess I need to post some pics of my car. I’m running ITR spec OHLINS with EG/DC Suspension Techniques lowering springs (I think they are 2" or 2.5" but they lowered the car about 3-4" with the struts). I did not have nearly as much difference in the ride height from front to rear as you did once they finally settled completely (took a couple of months and allignments). Mine are probably more level due to the front struts having an adjustable spring perch (only 3 different heights - not a coilover style) and it is sitting on the lowest one. If you get DA springs to fit them, I would like to know. DA springs would not fit correctly on the front of mine (DC/EG use the larger diameter springs front and rear - same diameter as the DA rear springs). Also, the rear DA lowering springs may actually be taller than the stock rear ITR springs.
I’m going to talk to Ryan at Eibach and see if I can get teh DC2 style lowering spring that is as close as possible to an ITR spring rate as well as the GC’s.
The most bass ackwards lowering design is what is used on the G1 teg…it’s a GC setup, but upside down…but hey…unless you go for the super limited custom Teins that are in development right now, thats all you get. And the front is torsion bars.
does anybody know if a EF front subframe will work on a DA? what about upper control arms? read the whole first 2 pages and skimmed the rest, didn’t see any info.
