I’m thinking about turboing my GS instead of doing a swap. I think I can get more power outta the deal, for the same money just about.
I havent been able to find any kits that give me the pieces needed. You guys all do custom kits? Also, what can be used to tune the car ECU wise? Is there a plug and play ECU that I can use? Like Hondata or something? I dont wanna rewire everything if I dont have to :).
Also, what should I check that could be a common or known problem? I figure compression and leak down tests, but what else should I do and look for? I might just change the head gasket for the sake of it. Motor has 103,000 miles on it.
honestly i wouldnt boost the motor without atleast rebuilding the bottom end. as you know the more miles you rake up, the more prone you are to failure in drastic proportions lol… i’d go with a turbonetics setup… t3/t4 would give you full boost around 4k rpm. expect to make 230-350 whp on about 5-7psi. im probably going with an ebay turbo, intercooler, and catch can. i personally wouldnt trust their blow off valves or wastegates. their manifolds have also been known to crack. good luck on the search
My buddies ebay manifold cracked no less then 10 times in different places, his WG was a piece of shit so he got a tial, the BoV is decent, the turbo was toast in less then a year, the intercooler is small as hell from xspower.
Well I’m not going to rebuild the motor, I just want some more damn power . I wanna keep the car for a while but I dont wanna spend a ton of money… my ONLY gripe with this car is its power. If I had a GSR I’d be happy, but doing a swap entails the same amount of money or more. Plus, I dont think I could handle doing a swap myself, throwing a turbo kit on I could. Plus turbo I’ll get more power than a swap.
If its a bad idea given teh mileage and all where can I look at prices of swaps?
You really need to read that Turbo guide up there. I think your better off going NA for the price if your not going to build your engine. you can throw simple bolt-ons without losing reliability.
you can go turbo, but for what you spend on the turbo, your engine could be stronger. not trying to sway you from it, it’s your choice.
Well from what I know about turbos and what I’m THINKING is needed, I’m looking at roughly 3000$ to put a turbo kit on my car, all said and done. NA wouldnt get me nearly the same power, nor would a swap. It seems like the most economical way to get good power. But, if I have to now build the bottom end then its not worth it to me. And seems everyone so far is saying i need to do that. If thats the case I’m probably not gonna do anything. I dont see a swap as something worth while, since I’m not going to really gain that much power going to a bigger motor. I was considering maybe doing an H22 swap, but that was really it. And from what I read in FAQs and stuff I didnt get any info. Is there any info about an H22 swap possibly?
I was in your case once… Then I bought a b16a from hmotorsonline and added i/h/e , homemade 3m mounts, ac/ps removed, corwler cams and I keep up with my friends 94 ls turbo just fine. He runs a 14.9-14.7 all day where as I run a 15.1-15.4 usaully. And I only spent about 2300 on my swap. WELL wort it. You don’t need a turbo, get a vtec…
I think if you did get the compression and leak down tests done professionally and they came back with consistent numbers you should go for a mild turbo setup. If you do decide to pull the head and change the headgasket out you might as well take it to a machine shop and have it decked (preferably the block too - you want a nice smooth surface for the MLS head gaskets). Throw some ARP head studs in there and get to boostin. If a turbo’d car is what you want don’t cut yourself short and opt out for something else just because it’s easier.
If you do go turbo, buy new parts from reputable sources. Half of the issues I had with my engine build and subsequently my turbo build stemmed from poor, used parts from no name companies; I was trying to save a buck wherever I could. In the long run that makes for headaches and a lot of disappointment. Good luck with whatever you decide on.
if you don’t want to build right now, and like codrum said about your leak down, and compression test are good, go for it. I ran my car on stock internals for 2 years, but I never daily drove mine. LS is the best thing to boost on a budget hands down, no engine swap needed. If you have your mind set on turbo, don’t settle for anything less, but like others say…get reputable parts from reputable companies and save yourself headaches later on.
I’m not hell bent on a turbo setup so to speak. I really just want more freakin power and turbo seems the easiest route. I’m not new to turbo cars, but am new to honda. Basically, I wouldnt want to spend more than about 3000$ to get a good jump in performance out of my car. I just put a bunch of money into it fixing up the brakes and tires and little other BS and absolutely loving it, but to me the car is such a dog as far as acceleration and overal power is concerned.
So if you guys got any other ideas, or can point me to more places to buy motors and stuff, let me know.
if i have 3gs to spend i will invest in doing the h2b. h22 with a b tranny. in might cost a little more over 3gs or just about. my brother is trying to part everthing together to do his hatch. look it up on h-t, they got some how to on it, look pretty easy, just like a swap. just a though and good luck on what you do
94 ls with b18b…
Drag manifold,turbonetics turbo (gt-k) I think…, turbo xs rfl bov, tial wastegate, custom piping, no clue what Intercooler,Tanabe ex.,magnaflow high flow cat, tuned on uberdata and fine tuned with VAFC 2(JUNK), pushing 7lbs boost and has ran strong DD for just over a year now
$3000 can get u a gsr swap easy and jump u from the 130-140hp range to 180hp to the crank. and some nice lil bolt ons will give u a lil kick and get some VTAK!!! WOOO!!!
oh yeah and i made a home made turbo kit by just piecing stuff together for my b16a
for a quick fix you could go with something cheap just don’t boost the hell out of it. from my experience my engine has about 70k on it and i am pushing 9 lbs of boost and having a hell of a lot of fun. i smoke turboed subarus, dodge ram trucks, any civic or integra (so far) that tries to be funny, and i still completely spin 2nd and most of the time 3rd. but i have a b18ls with a chipped and chrome tuned ecu i was told was done by xenocron, 9lbs of boost, 450cc injectors, and that’s honestly about it. a good item is a sleeve saver. it goes between the head and the block and supposedly lets you push to 22 lbs i am getting one soon so if you are still wondering ill let you know.
you know what…just slap on that Ebay turbo and your good to go. not sure what all is included, but you might want to get a boost gauge, air fuel gauge, fuel pressure regulator, injectors, intercooler, and fuel pump?. not sure what else as i have’nt had any experience with these turbos, i hear the weolds on the manifolds suck? and yeah…you don’t need to build the internals, stock bottom end can hold up to 350hp or so i hear. make sure to get a good tune though before you decide to boost the shizznit out of it.
b18s run low compression to start with, so they can take some boost. i had a buddy that ran about 21 lbs on a stock engine with just ecu being chipped and reprogramed and ran good for about a year or 2 till he blew it. it was kinda queer cause all it did was spin the tires till there were none
get mine! meant for a 3rd gen teg. straight bolt on for that car. would need mods for the intercooler n piping to fit, but other than that, everything is a straight bolt on and tuned for a stock engine. in the for sale thread somewhere. pics there too.
. I wanna keep the car for a while but I dont wanna spend a ton of money… my ONLY gripe with this car is its power. If I had a GSR I’d be happy, but doing a swap entails the same amount of money or more. Plus, I dont think I could handle doing a swap myself, throwing a turbo kit on I could. Plus turbo I’ll get more power than a swap.