where is the cam seal?

cam seals involve removing the timing belt… be sure u get the timing set right when you put it back on :slight_smile:

The valve cover gasket is the more likely culprit but you might as well inspect the cam seals while you’re in there. If they look good you’re probably better off to leave them until you change the timing belt.

aww ok, is it difficult, ive never attempted that before.

any tips or anything on doing it, would be much appreciated.

i would agree with your… dont touch the belt unless its going to be done

xclus… pull the valve cover off and check it out… i dont know how long ago your timing belt got changed… but it might be a good thing to inspect it for dryrot… wear and stuff like that… if you dont know when the belt was last changed… id sugest save up to change it to be on the safe side… do cam seals and crank seal (as per alldata its same price to do just cam seals or cam and crank seal) u might also want to get them to check for oil pump o-ring leaking… … that is a very major leak as its under presure if it starts leaking

ok, well i just put this motor in, bought it with 55k on it. cause my old one blew up.

EDIT: oh and i remember checking out the timing belt and stuff when we put the motor in… its definatly good, almost looked brand new! i didnt even think to check the seals or anything tho.

how many miles have u put on since?.. also did u check the waterpump play b4 u put the motor in?

im pretty sure my belt died partialy to the waterpump having alot of play

umm… 1/4 mile since I put it in… lol.

swapped the motor in, went to lower it, and damn 13 year old bolts sucks and snapped so I had to fix the suspension, did that … put oil and everything in, no leaks… sweet! took it down the road, came back and oil leaking after that.

i also removed power steering/ a/c and cruise control while I put it in.

there is no slack or anything in the belt area, we made sure of that.

slack in the belt and play in the pump are 2 totaly diff things… if the motor has 55k miles… odds are its the original belt unless it came out of a car from a person that acts like my grandpa… get service done in half the time to it just to be sure everything lasts…

what year did the motor come out of?.. also how big is the oil leak after u park?cam seals in my car were really bad and it wouldnt be anything more than a few little drops after parking… than… the oil pump o-ring… the spot would be a little bit bigger than one of the door speakers… also if the cam seals are leaking and have been leaking… it would have oil on the belt… which would cause it to fail quicker

ok, the leak was ooo, 1/4 quart of oil.

then it would stop leaking as long as the car was off.

Were you able to confirm the mileage of the new motor? You’re supposed to change the timing belt every 60K miles, so a new one at 50 or 55K isn’t unheard of, nor is it “half” the recommended time. If you can’t say for sure when the timing belt was changed I wouldn’t trust it.

Just to clarify, is this oil leak on the front of the block?

And radzer0, how many miles were on your car when the cam seals went?

no i did not verify, he had no documentation, but it was a good price regardless and I needed one. im sure its low mileage tho, thing starts without a crank and sounds very nice, all but this damned leak.

im not even worried about the leak tho. and on my old motor with 160 still had the original belt in it, and my original belt still looks very good.

yes its from the front, its from exactly were its circled on the right… so it would be the front of head actually. not the block. its coming almost what looks like an inch below the valve cover in the crease area or whatever… I will take pics when I get off work. so in like 4 hours lol!

umm. im half tempted to clean the area and throw some jb weld on it and see if it doesnt stop the leak :lol:

Check for a crease in the valve cover gasket, had a similar problem with a friend’s swap (looked like a leak from a crack in the head), but it turned out that the valve cover gasket was twisted in one spot, causing the leak. Cam seals would cause a leak behind the cam gears, and down onto the oil pump area, not the front of the motor.

my motor had 113k miles on it… supposidly the last dude changed the cam seals same time he changed out the distrib… who knows tho if he really did

the red car the motor had 90k miles… the cam seals were missing chunks… it was leaking alot worse than my car did

yea…jbweld on a spinning shaft… thats gotta work good ;)… jbweld costs more than camseals prolly anyways (havnt checked the price lately)

I’m with redline on this one. Let’s put this cam seal tangent behind us. XcLuSiVTRM, you said you checked the timing belt and it looked good. In other words, it wasn’t covered in oil? Move on, radzer0.

The valve cover gasket probably just got nicked when the cover was off, or the bolts got overtightened during re-installation. It doesn’t take much.

haha, Im going to pic up the cam seals after work… 5 bucks =o) but anyways. After reading this .

i dont know if its the cam seals now? what else could it be.

ok yea im beginning to think its not that, and i guess ill just get the valve cover gasket… im getting OEM Honda this time also, last time I got one from Autozone, so maybe this will help also. if it is this simple im going to be very happy =o) because I miss driving my teggy.

:bang: This is the most confusing thread ever. I’m willing to accept a portion of the responsibility for steering it in the wrong direction though.

The rest I put on radzer0. This is where it all breaks down:

The leak was described as BAD, and later as 1/4 of a quart of oil. Not a few drops. So I think we can safely say that radzer0’s experience doesn’t apply to your situation.

Pop the valve cover off and check the gasket before you start buying parts. Good luck!

well ill buy a valve cover gasket just becuase that could be it, and ill get pics asap for yall. please stay tuned =o)

the 1/4quart doesnt sound like cam seals to me… it sounds like my oil pump o-ring… my crank seal didnt leak like this eather… our red car didnt have a valve cover gasket at all… a poor attempt was made with some gasket maker… but thats it and it didnt leak more than a few drops