Which tranny for 250whp???

I’m going for about 250whp when my motor and turbo set-up is done and I was wondering what kinda tranny you guys would reccomend I use?? I was thinking either a short geared b16 tranny or stick with my LS tranny and throw in a lightened flywheel. Which would be a better choice?? If I should use the LS with a lightened flywheel, how light should I go??? Thanks,

Brian

If you’re Turbo, stick with an LS tranny.

With or without a lightened flywheel?? Nothing too light, I was thinking like 12.5lbs.

I would either stay stock on the flywheel or go very lite. A friend has a 8lb in his G20 and its really nice. Doesn’t bog when you learn how to launch on it…

i really really really like that ACT streetlite. driven a few different cars with it. it’s going in my build. :slight_smile:

Thats what I was thinking about going with on my LS tranny. How difficult was it to drive?? My buddy has got a 8lb. one and I dont know if I would want to go that light with a daily driver. It was kinda tricky.

obviously something that’s nearly half the weight of stock (12.5 lbs verus 20 lbs) is going to be a change. i’ve had the good fortune of being able to drive many high-performance cars in my time (viper, 355 spyder, 360 challenge stradale, and a few different-size formula cars) so it wasn’t a major adjustment for me. I’d say a couple days of driving would be all it would take for the average person to learn it. It’s not extremely difficult, but i don’t want to lie and say it’s a cakewalk. To be honest it would differ with everyone, but i don’t see why anyone around here would have trouble with it.

Archon If you’re Turbo, stick with an LS tranny

What kind of motor is this? I assume it’s an ls. Would you guys recommend the ls tranny on a vtec motor? I’ve heard mixed opinions and was just wondering what you guys think. Some say longer gears=good for turbo spool, and others say no matter what you will be better with a short geared tranny to cycle through gears faster. I’ve seen a ls tranny on a turbo car and it made good time at the track. I know for sure that a ls tranny sucks for a non-turbo vtec honda…or any other b series motor.

Maybe MIKE will chime in. he rana bosoteed LS/VTEC with LS tranny and he said he’s really paying for it running the LS tranny…

Although Im not boosted …yet…when I made the switch from the LS tranny to the B16 it was like night and day. The B16 tranny is much faster.

exactly. shorter gears = better acceleration. period. boosted, n/a, fred flintstone style, doesn’t matter. the myth about ls letting you stay in boost longer is just that…a myth. shorter (and closer) gears will leave you in boost when you shift just fine. while your top speed won’t be as high, who gives a rat’s ass?

this subject has been tossed around a great deal on honda-tech, with some of the leaders in the racing industry chiming in quite a bit. do a search over there, and pay attention to posts from folks like earl (crew chief for Laskey racing), Ed Bergenholtz, Tony Palo (Norwood racing sound familiar?) and others. :up:

Its not a bad thing if your turbo is not as big as mine (SC61). The problem I had with the LS tranny (not with the LS/VTEC but my B16) was it would fall out of vtec and lag for about a second then pick up again once it was back in vtec. But that pretty much kills the run having lost all the power and then picking it back up again. But with the LS/VTEC I didn’t feel that because of the extra displacement over the B16. It fully spooled at 5400rpm where my B16 spooled at 6000rpm). The way I got around that was by setting my rev limiter at 8500rpm in the B16 when I was racing it and my foot never came off the gas pedal once it was glued to the floor until the run was over. Some people can’t control clutch and pedal that well to handle tire spin so the LS tranny is the best bet( for me thats all I had at the time so I tried it out). The better tranny is obviously a vtec tranny because shorter gear ratios are torque multipliers, but thats is if you can transfer that power to the pavement.

I have the ACT streetlite (8.8lb), I like it. :clap:

Chunk

last time i checked, that was a flywheel. this thread is about transmissions.

and darwin spins in his grave…

I was responding to your post wiseguy :giggle: :

i really really really like that ACT streetlite. driven a few different cars with it. it’s going in my build.

And just for the record, the orginal poster asked about which flywheel in his second post:

With or without a lightened flywheel?? Nothing too light, I was thinking like 12.5lbs.

Was there anything useful you wanted to add? :rockon: To stay “on topic” BTW stick with the LS tranny.

Chunk

on that note, yes there is something i’d like to add.

what do you base this on? what first-hand experience with which different transmissions do you have that allows you to make this educated statement? your facts i await. :down:

I don’t owe you any explaination, you don’t like my opinion, thats ok with me.

On the count of you adding anything useful as I asked: :owned:
On the count of you defending your a$$hat post: :owned:

Just quit while your ahead, picking a fight on the Internet makes you look stupid.

Chunk

:rofl:

you’re cute. if you can’t back up your argument with fact (which is obvious, because you haven’t yet and refuse to) then it’s best to just not make it at all, k sweetheart? :up:

OMG! your awsome

Armed Ferret-

Does that mean your a rodent with a gun?

DUDE! You are wack :wtf:

Brian was asking about transmissions, AND flywheels (see the post at the top of the thread)

I’m glad that you’ve had “the good fortune of being able to drive many high-performance cars in my time (viper, 355 spyder, 360 challenge stradale, and a few different-size formula cars)” wow, your so bad @$$ that I can’t even believe you bother posting to fools like us.

Not to mention that I’m just AWED :clap: that you are familiar with such astounding names of “real racers” like Ed Bergenholtz, Tony Palo (I really have never have heard of them but I’ll take your word for it…)

And where do you get off slamming chunk just for a comment about his liking his lighter flywheel? You’re :gay:

Might we also be blessed with the source of your boundless and infallible knowledge? :giggle: Perhaps you have some dyno charts or time slips to back up your claim that an LS tranny is not the way to go? Or perhaps you just have some threads that YOU read on the Internet, so YOU must know what your talking about. Yea, that’s probably it. :loser:

End Rant, just had to backup my boy Chunk…

which explains the lack of anything substantive in your post. but you get a check-plus for use of smilies.

as for the comment about a rodent with a gun, ferrets aren’t rodents. anyone with a high school education knows that a ferret is not a member of the rodentia family, but rather mustelidae. if that word has too many syllables for you or “your boy”, you can look it up on dictionary.com

as for the source of my knowledge? why don’t you ask car manufacturers why they choose short gear ratios over long ones even on boosted applications? why does the 04 cobra have such short gearing, it’s a boosted setup right? what about the 3rd gen RX-7? What about the Cobalt SS (which has shorter gearing than the standard 5-speed Cobalt)? What about the Lingenfelter corvette upgrades which, when you boost it, recommend shorter gears? by your boy’s (worthless) rationale they’re all wrong, and would be better with longer gearing.

i’m just wondering why chunky said what he did, just asking for some reasoning is all. if he has no experience with boosted applications running an ITR or b16 transmission, he has no room to say if they’re a bad transmission.

but hey thanks for your input. :up: