yea…but are DA full coilovers still longer than EG/DC coilovers though??
If you get top hats, it won’t matter…you won’t be able to drive any lower than they’ll allow you to go anyways.
For example…I had Koni/GC on my 2000 Civic with the tophats. When lowered all the way down, my fenders were sitting on my tires.
im currently running koni yellows and ground controls and im sitting with less than an inch clearance between mudflaps and ground i can still go lower too. still have some space on the coils and shocks to slam it. and it rides pretty damn good.
i just really dont want a sleeve strut combo…i guess thats something i might have to suck up if these skunk2 coilovers dont give me the drop i want
the skunk2’s ive heard very good news about them. and if i think you are going as low as i assume just keep in mind that maxing out is still possible.
Koni/GC is a proven setup as you already stated with quality and excellent customer service. They (koni) can revalve the struts to any spec you want and they’re in country so you don’t have to pay for shipping to japan or elsewhere in event that you need a rebuild. There’s dyno charts throughout the web of this setup, just need to search to find it, but it’s out there, and for the most part the results are pleasing compared to other brands.
I’ve noticed that you wanted reviews of d2, function and form, and ksport, which a matter of fact is literally all the same coilovers made in taiwan. I personally would stray away from those companies as there a plenty of horror stories from others across the honda community talking about premature leaking from the strut, piss poor quality control in which the dyno tests showed that the dampening are not carefully calibrated to one another, therefore there is some difference in each coilover if you set them at the same damper setting. Also if you plan on “slamming” the teg, I predict that these coilovers will not last that long considering that the travel for the strut will be capped since you’re probably gonna crank those collars to the lowest setting not allowing the proper travel for the strut, which can eventually cause premature leakage (But this essentially applies to all coilovers if you decide to do this).
If you really want to get that “slammed” look, try to get the eg/dc setup as people already stated. The shock length on the dc/eg is 2.5’’ shorter than a DA so therefore you get the benefit of being low, and already having the proper travel for the strut/shock. The only issues you may encounter with this setup is that the front forks may rub against the axles as some people have indicated here. Also if you do decide to do this, you may want to look into dc2 type-r suspension as well (you need to change your rear control arm to run them; direct bolt-on) which then opens your selection as you can get those exclusive Japanese brands.
Also another consideration if you plan on getting coilovers, is to replace those 20+year old bushings!!! They will make the car feel like night and day!! Most people overlook this, but this is VERY IMPORTANT, it will make the car more responsive!!!
The choice of what brand is up to. If you want to cheap out and buy skunk2,ksport,d2,f&f go ahead, but be forewarned those companies do not offer top notch CUSTOMER SERVICE. In the event that your coilovers blows and you want to rebuild, those companies do not offer that service, though i don’t know if it applies to these companies, some companies that i’m aware of can replace the dampeners(shock/strut/whatever it’s called). Instead they may require you to purchase another kit if it’s out of warranty, basically SOL. Me personally I’m all about 1. quality control, 2. customer service (even before this recent skunk2 dilemma). Why buy something if it’s crap? Why not save a little bit more and buy something that has been proven over and over and it backed by the company by offering superior customer service. Take that into consideration.
Some companies that you should look into:
- Koni/GC (as stated above)
- Tein- though alot of people don’t like them, I personally have no problem with them as their customer service is great and they have a facility in CA that offers a rebuild service.
- Fortune-Auto- a recent company mostly known in the 240sx community, though some of it’s part are from out of country (Taiwan,China), the customer service is there and they dyno test all their products and also offer a rebuild service stateside. They stand behind their products.
- Zeal (my preference)- not really budget friendly but again their products are excellent and backed by good customer service. They also have a rebuild facility in the US as well
- Cusco- a great product from the start and pretty pricey as well. However the only downfall to them is if you need to get them rebuild, it’s definietely not cheap. Cusco only replaces the dampeners, not rebuild them which costs ~$170+ per corner. But nonetheless a great product.
- K&W- not budget friendly but their product are of a superior quality. There quality control is there as they have facilities to dyno test them and they also offer rebuild service as well.
my $0.02
hope this helps you in the right direction to choosing the coilover for you
FYI in the classifieds, someone is selling a used set of koni/GC, not a bad price
http://forums.g2ic.com/showthread.php?211937-CT-91-LS-S-Part-Out-1-Pieces-limited-edition-interior-whole-car-needs-to-go!
you went through alot writing that and added contradictory info…because i’m willing to bed that those whose owned d2s ksports etc were slammed, which is not the intent for coilovers in the first place which would result in premature failure…oan my skunk2 pro series coilovers came in yesterday, hopefully this wkend ill have them in so it can help you with your decision on if skunk 2 full coilovers are the way to go
how is my info contradictory? I have already indicated some con’s in dealing with d2,ksport,and f&f before I added the additional context of premature failure due to incorrect ride height. Please learn to read before you come up with false accusations of my statements. First i said stay away from those companies, then with the added context of poor quality control and with the additional of people cranking down the collars to the lowest setting, of course it’s gonna start leaking- that’s a no brainer. And i also said it applies to all to coilovers, however these companies’ coilovers are much more prone to have these problems again due to poor quality control and lack of research and development. I’m only here to guage the info I have and also offered a different alternative to get that “slammed” look without sacrificing suspension travel.
tein leaks as well…in the maxima community there are reports of teins SS coilovers leaking, and these people arent riding slammed. D2s are pretty reputable, ksports ehh…i sorta agree w/ you on, they are known for a harsh ride and longevity not being there. at least D2s and Ksports offer rebuilds/rebuild parts. at the end of the day, these arent oem parts and wont necessarily last you the rest of your life.
Once again let’s get some facts straight, please reread my statements as what I’m goin to say again is going to debunk your statements except for the last comment about not lasting forever. Anyways, Ksport,d2,f&f is the same coilover as they are all maufactured in the same factory in Taiwan. So it’s weird when you say d2’s are better than ksport. Also I did mention that alot of people dislike tein, however to me what makes them better than ksport,d2, f&f,skunk2 is their customer service and rebuild service, as they can do it stateside in CA if they have all the parts available; worst case scenario, theyre shipped back to Japan so wait time is longer. Besides that, once there in working condition has anyone really had many compaints about them? There still great coilovers, so what they blown sooner? Hence the great customer service they have. Also you mentioned that ksport rebuild their coilovers, I highly doubt that. They probably offer replacement dampers as it’s probably cheaper on their part instead of rebuilding them. Even so, I still wouldn’t waste my hard earned money on such products.
Yet I can still understand why individuals buy them. Your money, your choice. I’m not to here to troll but help community members aka the consumer to make an educated and reasonable purchase; something they wont regret down the road.
as am i. ksport and i’m sure d2’s offer rebuilding opportunities…so i mean, at teh end of the day, if it blows the company wont leave you high and dry, like megan coilovers do without the chance of a rebuild. all i’m saying is they will blow, it all depends on the environment and time of day teh coilover is made…i’m just saying you can’t just knock a a set of coilovers, thats all i’m getting at
skunk2 pro series…
thats how i’m sitting right now and i have a ton of space left in order to go lower, which, if my new driveway allows me to, i’ll be going lower soon. i have the original pro series, the pro 2s are just as good from what i hear and they ride awesome
They do NOT ride “awesome” when slammed. Not compared to Koni/GC.
I dunno why we even continue this discussion. Either get the Koni/GC combo with extended top hats (THEN YOU WON’T NEED ANY EG/DC PARTS FOR SHOCK TRAVEL, THAT’S WHAT THE TOP HATS ARE FOR!!!)…or go with a cheaper setup that will ride shittier, and last a lot less than the Koni/GC combo.
just buy a set of ksports
[QUOTE=usdm420;2249372]They do NOT ride “awesome” when slammed. Not compared to Koni/GC.
I dunno why we even continue this discussion. Either get the Koni/GC combo with extended top hats (THEN YOU WON’T NEED ANY EG/DC PARTS FOR SHOCK TRAVEL, THAT’S WHAT THE TOP HATS ARE FOR!!!)…or go with a cheaper setup that will ride shittier, and last a lot less than the Koni/GC combo.[/QUOTE]
and you are rebuttling my personal opinion to yours? cool story
fyi, i’ve read countless threads of coilover reviews with people who’ve stated whichever coilovers they decided to get was day and night difference from their koni/tokico or whatever mix and matched setup they had. my friend’s civic has this, and it’s pretty shit to me. just get proper coilovers with a large drop rating
I’ve owned both…so whatever you want to believe.
:shrug:
Also the EG/DC struts do not solve the need to go lower. For the rears yes, but with the fronts you may not be able to ‘slam’ the car as far as you want to go. And I have a friend with skunk2, I have to concur on the ‘do not ride awesome’ comment. My buddy with koni/GC (mrpenny) was slammed, raised it, lowered it, etc and it rode ‘pretty well’ no matter where he had it.
Thank you. I wasn’t trying to be a dick…I was stating an actual FACT as I have owned both. I’m not just “assuming”.