WRITE UP: JDM B20b into 92-93 LS

Okay, so I did this swap in march but have been going through a lot of things
in my life. As such, I’m doing this write up now, as I’ve been seeing
some recent threads about B20s.

Side note:

This swap guide pertains to a JDM 1999-2000 high compression B20b w/ a
low rise manifold. As such, if you get a low comp B20, a USDM B20, or a
B20 w/ a high-rise manifold, some of the info is different. For
instance- I kept the low rise manifold on my B20b. As such, I was able
(kind of had) to retain the B20b’s fuel rail & injectors. You may
experience a different scenario w/ the above mentioned exceptions.

First off, This is a pretty straight forward swap. The engine is very
similar to your 92-93 b18a1; much more similar than the 90-91 b18a1.

I purchased a 2000 JDM high compression (9:6:1) B20b from
www.hmotorsonline.com. They are a VERY reputable company, & my
engine came in immaculate condition! This particular engine came w/ the
low-rise manifold & a P75 head. When I opened the valve cover to
inspect the head for built up oil& carbon deposits, I saw a shiny,
almost untouched assembly! This engine was well taken care of, &
I’m certain it was well under the guaranteed 35-40k miles!

After I changed my shorts, I called up some people & got the essential
tools:

REQUIRED TOOLS:

  1. Engine hoist
  2. Large & medium sized breaker bars
  3. Jack(s) & stands. Try to get two jacks if possible.
  4. Wire crimpers, connectors, & wire
  5. A full socket set w/ deep wells & reg size; 1/4, 3/8s, & 1/2
    inch drives
  6. Screwdriver set
  7. Ball joint puller 8. Rubber mallet & a reg hammer
  8. Bitch pin punch & a new Bitch pin
  9. a good crescent wrench set
  10. Penetrating lube
  11. A tap & Dye set. Needed to make hole in intake manifold for
    throttle cable bracket.
  12. A service manual. If you don’t have one already, now’s the time to
    get it.
  13. Soldering gun. Some of the connections require it. (fuel injectors
    etc.)
  14. Timing Light. 16. Baggies & a marker. Label & save all
    bolts & brackets to avoid confusion.
  15. Some good friends!!!
  16. PATIENCE!!!

Now you can & will have to keep many parts off of your B18a1, so
don’t go selling it off until you’ve stripped it of what you need!
Here’s another long list:

PARTS RETAINED:

  1. Your YS1 transmission is just fine. W/ the high comp B20b, you get
    140tq, so the mid-ranged gears of the YS1 are perfect for a daily
    driver; w/ spirited intent.
  2. Header. Actually, any b series header will work.
  3. Distributor. The B20 one is OBD 2. You need to make the engine OBD 1
    compatible.
  4. ECU. Yours will run the B20 just fine.
  5. Intake. Duh! Of course you want your AEM over the stock one!
  6. Mounts. You must re-use them all.
  7. Power Steering pump & bracket. ( If you’re gonna keep it. I
    did.)
  8. AC compressor & bracket. (If you’re gonna keep it.)
  9. Alternator. The B20 plugs can be modified to work if you have the
    diagrams.
  10. Engine harness. Once again, you want this engine OBD 1 compatible
    right?
  11. Hoses & lines. Rarely will an engine come shipped w/ these
    intact.
  12. Clutch & flywheel.
  13. Throttle cable bracket& Throttle wheel assembly… The B20
    wheel/bracket is backwards. Can’t just flip it.
  14. Starter. The engine won’t come w/ it anyway.
  15. Crank pulley. The B20 one isn’t even close to the same.
  16. TPS (Throttle Position sensor) Most engines don’t come w/ these.
    The B20b I got had the holes tapped, so all I needed was some new
    bolts.

GETTING STARTED:

I’m going to save a lot of space & assume you know the basics here;
like that you have to remove the old engine & then later on put in
the new one. As such, You can look in the service manual for a detailed
engine removal & replacement guide. This is also where some
knowledgeable friends come into play. If you’ve never done a swap
before, don’t go @ it alone, or just get a shop to do it.

  1. Take out the old engine.

Once that’s done, remove the transmission from it & then either clean it
up w/ some de-greaser & aircraft stripper or leave it ugly as sin,
you lazy ass piece of shit! J/K!

After that, take some time to clean up the engine bay, (especially the lower
portions) because there’s not going to be another time to really get in
their & make it blinged up! Easier to work in too.

SWAPPING PARTS: SECTION 1- THE INTAKE MANIFOLD &
THROTTLE BODY

  1. I kept the LOW-RISE B20b intake manifold, & as a result, I was
    able to use the hot looking B20b fuel rail & injectors. (If you
    have the high-rise manifold, then just re-use your B18a1 manifold.)
    This of course required me to wire up the injector harness.

Luckily, the wire colors are INDENTICAL to the b18a1 & w/ the extra B20b
harness, you have plenty of wire to use. I made the wires extra long to
accomidate a wire tuck.

Get out your soldering gun here. It is IMPERATIVE that you get good connections w/ these splices to make sure you have no fuel issues.

  1. The low-rise manifold has a big breather box on top. It won’t clear your hood. Toss it, but keep the grommet that connects the box & manifold.

Throwing it away leaves a big hole in your manifold. I remedied this by
getting a rubber stopper from the hobby store. It’s the kind used in
chemistry beakers. Just silicone the hell out of the grommet you saved
& the stopper; than shove it in the hole. use your rubber mallet to
tap it in a bit.

  1. The B20b Throttle wheel is backwards, & will not work w/ the
    Integra cable. The only fix is to re-use your B18a1 throttle wheel.

A… Take off the B20 wheel & keep the parts together in the proper
order.

B… Put on the B18a1 throttle wheel assembly.

C… Get the B18a1 throttle cable bracket & mark the hole on the B20b manifold

D… Get the appropriate tap & dye set & proceed to make the
hole. ONLY ONE HOLE WILL LINE UP! No need to make two!

E… attach the cable bracket; making it go inline w/ the wheel.

  1. The MAP sensor is on the throttle body, so you need to extend the wires
    to make it work. You CAN use the OBD2 MAP sensor. They’re all the same,
    except for mounting positions.

  2. Drill out the holes on your old TPS. You need it for the B20b. My
    new engine had the holes tapped, so all I needed was new bolts.

SECTION 2: ENGINE COMPONENTS:

  1. Swap the distributor over. Mark the relative positions to keep timing
    easier.

  2. Swap the Alternator over. You may need to re-use the b18a1 brackets.

  3. Swap the crank pulley. You’ll need some muscle for this one. An
    impact gun may help too. DON’T LOSE THE LITTLE KEY STAY PIN!! The
    pulley won’t stay on w/o it!

  4. Swap over the power steering brackets but keep the pump off til the
    engine is in the car.

  5. Swap the AC brackets over but once again, don’t put the compressor
    on until the engine’s in the car. It’s just easier to manuveur it that
    way.

  6. Swap the driver’s side engine mount over. You need the WHOLE mount
    & bracket from the b18a1. To remove it you’ll have to take off the
    timing cover.

THE TRANSMISSION:

  1. Put your flywheel & clutch on, then put on a new throwout
    bearing, as yours probably sucks. Also install A new throwout bearing
    spring. Mine was all kinds of messed up, w/ BOTH of the hooks worn
    nearly all the way down!

  2. To install the spring, you must remove the
    bolt that holds the fork on. Then liberally spray the clutch cable arm
    w/ penetrating lube. Once it’s lubed up. whack it with the mallet while
    pulling & turning the clutch arm. It’s not easy, but that’s what you
    gotta do.

  3. After you’ve got the arm out & the spring/fork combo off; grease
    the hell out of the throwout bearing, it’s fork, & the clutch arm.
    Re-install them.

  4. Mate the transmission to the engine, taking care to align the
    clutch.

  5. Put the starter on.

  6. Leave the transmission mount off until the new engine is dropped in.
    It’s easier.

  7. Install the VSS

INSTALLING NEW ENGINE!! YAY!!

Get it on the hoist & make sure all your parts are swapped over/
installed. Get everything cleaned up & organized in preparation for
the drop! Take your time & do it right the first time.

MOUNT ORDER:

A. Rear
B. Trans
C. Drivers
D. Front (Leave this off the engine 'til it’s in the car, near it’s
position. It gets in the way otherwise.

WIRING/HOSES:

Hook up all plugs, Starting w/ the fuse box first, then going to your
right. Just be sure to do the plugs underneath too! Double then triple
check your work. Make sure the connections are tight. Now is a good
time to extend your MAP sensor if you haven’t already. A wire tuck is
always a good idea if you have the time.

Next is the hoses. This is pretty self explanatory. Hook them up &
check your work. Who said homework has to suck!? Make sure all your
fuel lines are tight!! If you don’t you may very well get that “smoking
hot” engine you wanted!

Follow suit w/ the Cables. Adjust according to manufactuers specs.

Attach the header. Torque to specs.

Attach the shift linkage. Have fun w/ the “Bitch Pin”!!!

Attach intake piping.

FLUIDS:

Fill the radiator, transmission, engine, power steering w/ appropriate
levels.

Here’s some fluids i used:

  1. Pennzoil Synchromesh transmission fluid. This stuff rocks hardcore!!
    Took all my grinds away. Now I can shift in any gear @ any RPM w/ no
    issues.

  2. Prestone full strength antifreeze diluted w H2O to a 60% coolant-
    40% water mix.

  3. Redline Water Wetter This stuff lowers your coolant temps up to 8
    degrees w/ a 60%/40% mix like I use!

  4. Royal Purple 10w/30 motor oil. It’s Magic baby!! Lasts up to
    8000miles between changes & provides serious engine protection!

START YOUR ENGINES!!

Provided you did it all right & everything is hooked up, you are now ready
to… CHECK IT AGAIN!! That’s right, again. I missed the VSS until my
very last “dummy” check. You can’t be too cautious w/ a swap.

Haste makes waste!

Okay, start her up. Nothing? Check you grounds & plugs. Try gain.
Nothing? Check your timing & your spark. Check for good vacuum. Try
again. Nothing?

Ask a friend for help; I’m not getting paid here! Seriously though,
problems will arise & you just gotta get help from a knowledgeable
source. It could be many things, but most likely is fuel or ignition
related; like timing. Just be patient & go through a checklist. It
took me a few days to get her dialed in right.

This is what your completed project should look like:

So that’s it folks, my JDM B20b into 92-93LS swap guide! Hope this helps
or all this was for nothing! Please E-mail me w/ any questions; or
respond here.

A big thanks goes out to all my helpers.

Steve -(Most of the praise goes to this guy. He did a majority of the work & was there w/ me for 4 days doing this! And no we don’t suck; you can’t get factory parts on a Sunday; so don’t say we took too long!)

Chase
Chris
David
Mike
DJ


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Figure that out!

no prob man anytime heard the cars running great glad to see some pics :rockon:

One thing I want to add, is that you don’t need to wire in OBD2 injectors in. You can actually use the brown fuel rail spacers and put them underneath the fuel rail studs, and that will give you enough room for the stock injectors (they’re taller than the CRVs). That way some people won’t have to deal with soldering and what not. Get some better pictures next time! :angel:

Actually, we tried that. No dice. On the 2000 B20b w/ a P75 head, if you use the low-rise manifold that came w/ it, the only thing that will work is the rail & injectors that came w/ it. The holes don’t line up w/ a B18a1 fuel rail, & that spacer trick didn’t work to well either.

My b18a1 injectors were fucked up anyway, so it worked out fine in the end. Besides, as mentioned in the initial post, soldering the wires gave me plenty of extra length to do a tuck of the injector wires. Trust me, it looks WAAAYYY better that way.!

As for the pics, I had more on my old computer; but the hard drive took a shit on me last month. I just got back online 3 days ago. These are off my phone; still stored in the micro SD card.

BTW- The computer I’m on now I found in the trash! No shit! It’s a custom unit w/ a AMD Anthlon single-core processor w/ a MSI Nvidia motherboard. Now I got a 500GB hard drive w/ a 32MB cashe.

If you know what the fuck I’m talking about; it’s an amazing trash find! I even got the Microsoft keyboard & optical mouse combo w/ it, (further down in the can!) plus all the manuals, a monitor, & the software disks!!! All I had to do was buy a new hard drive & reboot windows XP. Fuckin’ sweet!!

Here’s a pic:

Anyways, keep the comments coming. I appreciate any suggestions & whatnot. If you think I can help you w/ this swap, just e-mail me w/ your questions or post here. Peace!


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Thank you sir! You know i’m always there if u need it bro! Glad it worked out well…we need to line these bitches up now and see what that B20’s got!

good write up man, im going to be swaping in my 97 b20b low comp/low rise mani into my db1 soon mayb this weekend or next not sure yet i need to get back my cherry picker from a freind, i was goona do a b20-vtec but ran short on money as of the stupid economy at my lil town

great thread man! hopefully i can keep saving like i have been and i can snatch one of these up from hmotors

Hmotorsonline is the best place period. You will not be disappointed. Fast shipping, great cust. service, excellent product. I don’t think I’ve hears one compliant about them, ever.


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I’m doing a low comp B20 swap right now for a customer into a DC4.This one has a high rise manifold so most of the B18B1 accessories from the old motor are going on this one.

I’m just waiting on the guy to bring me a new intake manifold gasket, so I can begin re-assembly.

Avid Mounts, new clutch kit, axle and flywheel should arrive tomorrow. Then maybe a drop in and start up on Friday.

Pass by if you want bro…

-Steve

The swap looks great guys!!!:rockon: It took me almost 4-5 days to do mine, but I really took my time…Why rush when you don’t have to. How does the car pull now in comparison to the old LS engine??

I miss my old b20b it was a fun motor :slight_smile:

It pulls way better. The B20b mated to the LS trans. is a great combo. Not a lot @ the top, but it chirps the wheels in third! I love my DA even more now.
Now she needs paint & wheels.

We took about 4 days as well. Part of that was due to parts needed; & taking the time to do it right.


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Nice contribution to the site. I am feeling guilty for not posting my experience with the LSVTEC and the auto to manual conversion. I’ll get there.

Thanks for the comments. I’m always glad to contribute to the site that helps me so much.


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[QUOTE=h93da6;2050645]Actually, we tried that. No dice. On the 2000 B20b w/ a P75 head, if you use the low-rise manifold that came w/ it, the only thing that will work is the rail & injectors that came w/ it. The holes don’t line up w/ a B18a1 fuel rail, & that spacer trick didn’t work to well either.

My b18a1 injectors were fucked up anyway, so it worked out fine in the end. Besides, as mentioned in the initial post, soldering the wires gave me plenty of extra length to do a tuck of the injector wires. Trust me, it looks WAAAYYY better that way.!

As for the pics, I had more on my old computer; but the hard drive took a shit on me last month. I just got back online 3 days ago. These are off my phone; still stored in the micro SD card.

BTW- The computer I’m on now I found in the trash! No shit! It’s a custom unit w/ a AMD Anthlon single-core processor w/ a MSI Nvidia motherboard. Now I got a 500GB hard drive w/ a 32MB cashe.

If you know what the fuck I’m talking about; it’s an amazing trash find! I even got the Microsoft keyboard & optical mouse combo w/ it, (further down in the can!) plus all the manuals, a monitor, & the software disks!!! All I had to do was buy a new hard drive & reboot windows XP. Fuckin’ sweet!!

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Wierd. That’s what I did with my swap and it worked great (OBD0 injectors and rail). I did have a B20z, so that might of been the difference. :shrug:
And right on for that comp find! Sounds like a sweet set-up

my ls is on its last breaths so im in need of a swap, i was thinkin of doin this swap but i have some rs machine pistons and a new p75 head to put on i just need to find out what will be cheaper to do

Bump just because!


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Just some additional info on using the B20Z intake manifold…

Since I got a USDM B20Z, they didn’t steal the TPS off of it. I left the complete manifold on with the box on top. This is what I did:

  1. wire in the OBD2 injectors
  2. extend the wires to the OBD2 map sensor on the throttle body
  3. attach the stock LS throttle cable to the bracket on the B20 throttle body
  4. get a small cable clamp and take up the extra slack in the throttle cable down at the pedal assembly
  5. take a cutoff wheel and cut part of the frame of the hood so that the box on the intake clears (could probably add spacers to the hood instead)

But… as illustrated in this pic, a strut bar won’t exactly bolt in anymore if you do that:

What purpose does the plastic box serve?

It’s not plastic, it’s aluminum like the intake manifold. It’s supposed to act as a resonator of some kind. It would theoretically increase the volume of the plenum. Definitely doesn’t hurt performance based on my previous dyno numbers. Also, someone who had seen my dyno graph before said that mine was much smoother with the box on in the midrange than others that they had seen without it (something about there being some choppy areas with some of the ones with LS intake manifolds).