91 Sedan b20t (Project)

I need some good hands and good advice.
[LEFT]I have a 91 Integra Sedan with a B20 CRV Engine.
Chassis has ES Bushings, Coil-overs, Tokio shocks
I have also acquired complete T3/4 Turbo kit.
I also have a Hybrid S1 1-4 JDM, 5th USDM rebuilt transmission.
My Goal is to make this sedan a quick city car, and a top speed land car

I also have broken down B18A engine that I can use for extra parts.

Basically, what I need is advice for those who have succeeded with B18 or B20 Turbo Applications[/LEFT]

lol @ top speed land car.

MantisX

that comment does not help much. thanks. It would be nice to make that sedan into a top speed land car. Get the G2’s into the 200 mph car club. I have already pushed a civic 93 hb to 150mph in germany. I am sure a b20 with a lil boost and right gears and wheels will get the G2 teg’s up in the 200’s. Besides, the G2 sedans should have been powered by a 2.0 liter engine. It’s kinda nice.

150 mph is not something to brag about really…, a basically stock car can come close to that. i took my bro’s 94 civic coupe EX stock…up to the max 130MPH could of probably could of gone faster if not for the limiter. not a good idea looking back at it. anyways…when your talking 200mph your gonna have to look into aerodynamics, they play a ‘BIG’ part in achieving your goal of 200mph. anyways…good luck on your project.

I was not bragging about 150, I am talking about achieving 200mph. I am looking for positive feedback to make this acheivement.

No, you got me all wrong. I just thought it was a funny statement. By all means, id love to see a teg do 200+ I didnt know if you were serious or not.

MantisX

How much boost are you gonna be running?? and why would you use a b20 over the b18? are you gonna sleeve it? if you want a reliable motor id use the b18a IMO but to each his own, friends have gone b20 turbo on full tune and it only lasted a month on 10lbs

most likely 7 to 10 psi on a t3/4. What I need now is a special gears shop to redo my 3,4,5, and final drive.

honda tunning has an assue a while back about a blue civic fully built b16 and custom turbowith a gt42 and i believe it didnt even reach 200…<-correct me if im wrong

yeah…i remebered about that blue civic, i believe it was the 99-00 civic si. went to the…whats it called flat salts or something to try a landspeed record. i believed it went up around the high 180’s?, then encountered some aero problems, or blew the charger. but like i said, when you get up in the high MPH drag is gonna be a big problem, you either need a ton of horsepower to force the car through the drag…or a more refined aero package to reduce drag like modifying the car by chopping the top half of the car, taping up every crack and crease of the car to smoothe it out, take off the side mirrors, etcc. your gonna want to reduce the weight of the car…but by doing that you NEED to increase the downforce of the car before you go flying. you got to find the right balance, the ‘sweet spot’ if you will in order to maximize the potential of the set-up.

yeah the aerodynamics of our cars will be a big issue. Mercedes had their CLK-GTR go airborne in their 99 Leman’s race. The speed on that event I believe was between 160 to 180. Their problem with that event was the wind got up underneath their front of the car.

200+ would be awesome. Possible? Maybe… On a stock body? Hells no. That car would probably float like a mother f*er.

My only concern with the build is the ebay parts. Looks like all SSAC parts to me tbh.

EDIT: I meant 200+

b90teg: what are you talking about? The turbo kit? what parts do you think would fail?

thats a log manifold, not some thin walled fancy shiny tubular, im sure that and the turbo will be fine,(dependent upon the turbo being built properly). If it is an ebay kit normally the worries are the turbo, wastegate, and bov.

haha, that log is for an accord. I need to get a B series turbo manifold. What do you guys recommend?

Well I’m just kind of thinking of it like this. a 200mph land speed run will take time. As in you’re using a early 90’s sedan. For every 10mph increase you need so much more power. (there’s a chart somewhere)

So I’m thinking since the engine and all it’s components, not to mention the body as well… will undergo a great deal of stress at that speed/rpm… and the need for probably 500+ or so hp to get there… You wouldn’t want a weak link.

I’m not saying you’re parts will fail, or that you can’t do it. Just saying that you don’t want anything major failing that that speed.

what links do you think are weak?

I have given the body design alot of thought. I know there are many variables that can cause failure of reaching and passing 200mph. Air pressure outside and inside the cabin can cause serious problems. Since our cars have frameless doors, it means the windows are as tightly locked when rolled up, air pressure could (not saying it will, but there is a possibility) suck the window glass out literately. Also the rear of our cars are considerably light weight, but can be fixed with a rear spoiler.

I am not too worried about producing 500 reliable HP’s. I am more concerned if the transmission can support that amount of stress.

I know when Mercedes did their top speed run in their clk-gtr, the gear box got to 120c degrees, (metric temp, no US temp). That is hot!
Axles are another thing,

If i was going for 200 mph Id gut the car and get a cage before I started making power. A very good cage!

ominous2: power with no limits or ends is insanity and death. I am just trying to achieve 200mph in a daily driver chassis using as much OEM parts as possible, and have consume as many types of fuels possible.

:mensa: i myself have taken my gsr all the way to 140+mph it was very much insane the car itself is not desigend to go that fast. your crazy to think this car will still be a daily driver. your motor will need to rev out to atleast 9k unless you want to design a 6th gear or realllly long gears. the car will need atleast 500hp i suggest you watch this http://youtube.com/watch?v=zF82lj8anYk