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Ok, yet another starting problem. I have gone through and checked to see if it is fuel related and havn’t found any probs there. I replaced the distributor which means new coil, ignitor, I got a new rotor, cap, the whole distributor setup is new. That only fixed half the problem, because I get it started when the motor is cold, and when it gets to reguler running temp. it dies on me, and I can’t start it back up again until it is cooled down all the way. I don’t think it would be a fuel prob, because I can stomp on it and all the fuel it needs, gets to it. I am stumped, and my ECU is flashing a code 15, which is ignition output signal, I believe. Imagine that… ANY HELP WILL BE MUCH APPRECIATED :hugs:

o0o… and I went through and checked all of the fuses in my engine bay fuse box, and driver’s side fuse box.

my 92 gsr didnt start one time…and i overlooked this little tiny thing…my car didnt start cuz my ecu fuse was bad…so check that b4 u go and spend a shitload of money

Your car will not start if the alternator fuse is blown to… right nino?

Just need a confirmation

Okay correct me if I’m wrong. From all this reading, I think my starting problem is that “Main Fuel Relay”.

My problem is intermittent. Only when it hasn’t been driven the whole night. I go try to start the car with the key all the way to the start position, holding it there for about three to four seconds with no sound no click no turn over… NOTHING!!

Then after that 3 to 4 seconds It’ll start up fine! Is that the MFR?

Another Question? How many grounds do we have on the engine?

negative battery
valve to chassy
Is there anywhere else?

Nope, MFR won’t keep the starter from turning over, it just keeps fuel pump from coming on. You probably have loose battery connections.

Really? Do you know where are all the grounds that I need to check? I know the basic places of ground… battery and the one thats on the valve cover.

Thats The problem many of us in Rochester have had. Awesome post

http://www.car-forums.com/archive/t3615.html (Gravistar)

i know some of you hate these questions, but my car(93gs) starts but dies .you can start it again and runs fine. i didnt think any of it at first but it done a couple times now. and yes ive done everything you guys have posted, it stoped for a while then it did it again. is there something simple im missing?

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Ground

i’ve read this whole thread and links but lately I’ve been having a problem with my car not starting when it’s hot.

It’ll start when it’s cold and whenever I drive it around for awhile, and try to start it back up, it does nothing. I see the lights come on and go out and the fuel pump click and everything. I’ll even hold the key to start and pump my foot on and off the clutch to hear the relay click.

me not thinking anything of it thought it was the starter so I replaced it, not once but a couple times already to make sure. what could this be? car runs fine when it’s started. I can jump start it whenever this happens too.

another thing is I’ve moved my battery to the trunk so I have my wire that used to mount to the ground on the battery straight to the chassis, and I have the other ground that goes from the valve cover to the chassis. I am stumped but don’t want to go out and buy stuff I don’t need right now.

could this be my main fuel relay faulty? I am clueless right about now.

Is it turning over and not starting or does it not do anything when you turn the key?

it does nothing when I turn the key. I hear my fans cut on but that’s it. I took out my main relay, I looked at it but didn’t see anything wrong. I really didn’t know what I was looking at on it but I didn’t see anything out of the ordinary.

If it were the main fuel relay, the engine would crank and not start so it sounds like this isn’t your problem. I know you mentioned your clutch switch and you thought it was working. There’s also a starter relay that’s under the hood. Also, maybe your ignition switch has an intermitent connection. Also, if you have an alarm, that could stop the car from starting.
-nino

yeah, that stupid alarm. that could be it but it’s only intermittent like you say. I want to check the starter relay, where would that be under the hood? I’ve been through my haynes manual front to back about this problem and can’t seem to find it. so I’ll check the following starter relay, faulty alarm wiring and clutch switch. thanks

It’s on the fire wall. I could email you a picture, but your email address isn’t in your profile.

first off I moved my battery to the trunk a couple years ago, never really knew what I was doing when I did it, but just wanted it in the trunk. The first problem I encountered was that I was told that I was using the wrong size wire for everything (4gauge). I then replaced that with 0 gauge wiring witch did help a little bit but not much( i was still going through starter problems). I eventually just started changing starters just about every other month. I finally got sick of it and decided to start troubleshooting.

I went to the starter relay witch is under the dash on the right( passenger side) behind a black box that’s slighty a little bigger. read the voltage at that point ( what you’ll be following is the black/white wire from the ignition) and everything was good. I then went to the plug on the passenger side fender( pretty Obvious witch plug on the fender. it has 2 fat wires; black/red, black/white in it) I read voltage there and that was good too. all while I was doing this I was checking the integrity of the wiring so that was all good, so I read voltage at the starter, that was good. I went back to recheck my grounds and I found the ground from the battery to be on a faulty spot, and a painted surface at that( no wonder? right?!!) well sanded down a nice spot for the new ground location and put everything back together. went driving a few places to make sure, and now I’m convinced it was the faulty ground.

this is long as hell and for someone to read this, it might actually help them wether it be moving the battery to the trunk or troubleshooting oyur starting system.

No power to starter motor?

Hi, All. It’s been a while since I’ve been in here obviously…

The car will not start.
Turn the key in the run position and the starter does not turn at all.
All accessories operate, fuel pump runs, etc…

My Integra has been in storage the past 4 months.
I left the positive cable on the battery connected, but removed the negative cable. I put a low 2.5amp charge on the battery using a heavy duty Sun battery charger during most of that period. I noted a battery fault code on the Sun battery charger last week, so I pulled it off. Normally, I have been starting the car once per week, but have not done so in the past 9 weeks now.

-I can find no blown fuses under the hood or the kick panel.
-I have 13.5 volts on the battery, which is also echoed at the starter.
-I can bump the starter with battery juice applied to the starter solenoid.
-I have proper power at the clutch interlock switch.
-There is no alarm or aftermarket wiring in the circuit.
-I also tried a different (known good) battery as well as a quick test with another battery used to jumpstart mine - no luck.
-I have 12 volts at the ignition switch.

I presume I have a bad starter relay then?
Could that have happened while it was trickle charging with the positive battery cable still connected? I should have 12 volts on the front side of that relay then, correct?

have you tried a new starter? if your getting voltage to the starter then your relay is working. looking at my hanes manual this is pretty much what your looking at>>>>>

Fuel Relay

Mine had the same problem. My mechanic fixed the MFR and the problem was gone. Should I bought a new relay??