New Setup

Its time for a new setup, heres my build, i will be throwin it together over the spring/summer, tell me what you think. going for a mid compression LS-VTEC.

B18A shortblock Bored .025mm over
Golden Eagle Block Guard
USDM Type-R pistons
ARP Head Studs
Eagle LS Rods
Balanced Crank
OEM Honda Bearings
Cometic .040" Head Gasket sprayed with permatex copper sealant
B16A Head
B16A Intake Mani
JUN 3 Cams
Omni Power Valve Spings, Retainers, and Valves
JG Engine Dynamics Cam Gears
Spooling Perf. Manifold and 3" D/P
T3/T04E 57trim .63 A/R
JRC Intercooler
RC Engineering 650cc’s
GM 3 Bar
Uberdata
3" Exhaust w/ HKS Hi-Power 3" canister
Lookin at about 10.5:1 compression and i am going to run about 8-10 lbs of boost. Shootin for around 325 horsepower with a nice powerband.
Let Me know what you guys think

Good looking build. Turbo is too small, and gasket might suck.

Im using that turbo for 2 reasons, 1 i already have it on my current setup, 2 the CFM output is low and higher compression doesnt like a high flow turbo and it spools really quick.
The Headgasket will be sprayed with a copper sealent, ive heard mixed things about cometics, but i think its just n00bs not knowing what theyre doing.

oh yeah and the timing is going to be yanked

you must mean .25mm ovesized, not .025" oversized. the cometic gasket will be just fine, the .42/.48 t3 WILL NOT MAKE 325whp.

Yes It will…

Thats on a bone stock B16A, at 12psi, im running alot more displacement, aggressive cams, alot better engine mgmt,(they were running an FMU).
BUT granted i do realize that im at the edge of the turbo’s capability i am thinking about stepping up to a larger turbo, which one i have no clue, i need to do some research, maybe some of you have some suggestions?? and yes you were right it is going to be .25mm overbore i had a typo.

man you will hate that turbo. Higher compression means that it will spool quicker than it would with the factory comp. Not to mention you have ls/vtec. In my opinion you will hate that turbo. I had that turbo on my prelude and that thing hit full boost around 3000rpms and died out at like 4500. thats just like you throwing a t25 turbo on the DA…ewwwwww

oh well

One word of warning: 10.5:1 compression + stock cast pistons + 10 lbs of boost = busted ringlands without a good tune. I busted two ringlands with 9.2:1 compression and a decent tune at about 11psi. I’m not saying it’s not doable, it’s just that the longevity will be in question.

those dyno graphs are not a good rule of thumb. a .60/.63, like a svo turbo will make over 300whp just bearly. a t3/to4e 57trim .60/.63 will make 300whp with ease.

do you have any suggestions on which turbo i should use? im going to use my .42/.48 see how it works, but from what everyone is telling me i wont like it, ill see on the dyno, but what do you suggest, i dont want a really peaky powerband, i really dont want to have to spool at 5500rpm. I dont know let me know though. Thanks.

EDIT: I was wondering about the T3 60-1, what do you guys think???

Hey I have that book and also went with a .42/.48 T3 for my B16. I’m going to run it until I can afford a bigger turbo since a lot of ppl have said it runs out of steam up top, but since I already have it I’m going to use it.

But then again since I’m only shooting for 250 whp with my setup, it may be all I need.

That book is theory. The 42/48 fails…in practice. I can gaurantee you will no tmake your numbers with that tiny turbo, and you will not be satisfied with the powerband. :down:

Any Suggestions???

At least a .60/63, thats the smallest turbo I’d advise anyone to run on a B series. Why not cop a used T3/T4 and be done with it? And have room to grow.

any t3/to4e any trim, any a/r. They all make good power.

Originally posted by TurboG2teg311

…i’m running…aggressive cams…

Can you give out some specs for the cams?

I’m curious to see what the lift and duration is like. :dance:

check my first post it has the setup details, there integra Type-R’s, BUT that might change, i saw some cams that were knock offs of popular companies like jun and toda but half the price, and used the same specs, im thinking of JUN stage 3’s.
Specs:…Duration…Lift
Type-R…Int- 294 mid…Int- 447 mid
…Exh-305 mid…Exh-416 mid

Jun 3’s…Int-304 mid…Int-12.0 mid
…Exh-304 mid…Exh-11.5 mid

Jun used a different measuring system for the lift on there website, maybe you can understand it, The Type-R specs were taken from crowers website.
From what i read if you can dial out the overlap of an NA cam you can extract ALOT more power than any Turbo cam can produce. I forgot whos car i was reading about but the car made 428whp with crowers turbo cam, then they swapped out for a Jun cam and dialed them in with cam gears and made 443whp.

Originally posted by TurboG2teg311

From what i read if you can dial out the overlap of an NA cam you can extract ALOT more power than any Turbo cam can produce.

got to love it when you learn things everyday :bowthank:

heres the link to the cams that i might get http://www.g2ic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142588