Is there a company out there that makes them??
dayme there expensive
worth every penny though.
Z10 makes them as well…
true, but z10 won’t custom-fab them with new radiator mounting tabs for the “feet” of the radiator if you want to use, say, a 92-00 civic radiator.
full-race will, for no extra charge. and they’re the same price as the z10 unit, plus they’re actually finished instead of in the white.
I’ve got the full race one. It’s bolt on. The Z10 one requires some welding (not exacltly sure what). I have yet to put it on but the quality put into it is awesome and the design looks great.
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I have the z-10’s. NO welding needed, complete bolt in. They also added the mounting tabs for my half size rad, for free. I have also used the full-race version on a customers EF hatch. Nice peice. If I was using it in a EF or crx, I’d go with the full race version. The front tranny mount tabs are included with the z-10 version but, I’m not sure with the full-race version.
Full-race incorporates the front motor monut as well. I have their traction bar. Works great.
Thats weird, I heard from a shop that has used both units on thier DA that the Z10 needed welding.
if it was older model Z10 bars that they’d used, it’s possible they’ve updated it.
though i have no personal z10 experience (other than being treated like shit on the phone more than thrice) so take that for what it’s worth. :shrug:
you can check this site out as well if you want a traction bar
Do you have any charts to show FEA of the stress points of those bars?
i have the etd bar, it just recently broke by the welded spot… i contacted they they said they’ll replace the bar, just gotta take better pics of the broken spot. other than that i thought it was pretty good bar for what it is… light weight and did help reducing wheel hop. if i had to do it all over again i’d save up for the full race
if it breaks while you’re driving, a free replacement doesn’t mean shit.
your car is already broken and you’re possibly in the hospital or dead.
Z10 and F-R bars are comparable, IMHO…no welding required for whoever posted that (teach you to post something someone else ‘told you’)
I’d also like to know how many give a rats ass about the FEA and stress points of a traction bar…do you think they ask SS Autochrome the same question before ordering up one of their handy dandy turbo kits?
so in other words you’re referring to them as the ssautochrome of suspension? 
I think he is referring to the unneccesary intention of being involved with the FEA and the stress points for the traction bar.
I certainly hope the companies named aren’t “SSautochrome quality”; I’m definetly going to need a traction bar :manual:
-Hoots
i beg to differ. a turbo manifold isn’t a load-bearing, constantly-stressed piece of vital vehicle structural integrity like a set of traction bars on a DA. as a vital part of the suspension geometry, i damn sure want something that has been proven beyond the shadow of a doubt to put up with stresses far beyond what it would expreience on a race track (not a drag strip, a real race track).
obviously by the fact that the one company’s bars (already forgot the name cause they don’t deserve to be remembered) have cracked at weld points would say that they’re of either poor build quality or poor design quality. take your pick–both are potentially life-threatening when your vehicle’s chassis relies on it at all times.
a turbo manifold cracks, and you can still drive the car back home.
vital suspension components crack, and you could end up decorating the highway in a lovely shade of red.
why do i feel like a broken record nobody’s listening to?
I read this thread wrong. It seemed that we were questioning the reliability of Z10 and Full-Race traction bars :whew: